Tuesday, January 29, 2019

Debating Debates

When debates are first mentioned, we tend to imagine a more modern version of one. You know, an academic/scholarly/professional setting, a mediator to keep track of time, and some people discussing  a variety of issues in about five minute intervals. But before these modern versions of debates there was a different type of debate, the Lincoln-Douglas style. Unlike modern debates which normally last for approximately 30 minutes, these debates would be hours and hours on end, with each side usually getting at least two hours to speak their part. During these times, it wasn't uncommon for them to pause the debate, dismiss the crowd to eat dinner, and return later for the second half. Despite all of the differences mentioned above, there is a more subtle yet intriguing difference between these debate styles.

During the Lincoln-Douglas debates, both speakers were able to fully and comprehensively explain their point. They had hours to make their case and were able to build the foundation of their argument with facts, background, and more in-depth explanation. In terms of being a participant in the debate, this opportunity to completely get the point across explained to the audience the reason behind why the speaker said what they said, and the audience, in turn, was able to analyze, dwell on, and respond (in their head) to that information. The audience member could, if they wanted to, have a full discussion and cite information given in that debate only, since so much of it was given.

Now a days, during a debate, participants get only a few minutes to state their argument, position, and  some backup information. While the time cut of a debate was inevitable and necessary for today's day and age, it also means that the speakers are robbed of the opportunity to completely state their argument. Since there are gaps in what they get the chance to say, a lot of blanks are individually filled in by the each member of the audience themselves. This leaves a lot of gray area to discuss, a lot of potential points to address, and even information that could be misinterpreted and mistakingly taken the wrong way. Unfortunately, in these modern debate styles, people are unable to address everything, like they could with the previous debate format. Since these compact versions of debates spark controversy and discussion but are not given the full amount of time needed to wholly delve into the topic, members of the audience draw their own conclusions and make their own points, basing them only off of what was said in two minutes.

As the audience members depart and talk about the debate they've just seen, or when the debate is shared on social media, many people don't do the necessary background research needed to take a stand on the debate topic. With so many people taking so many different, and even contradicting, things away from a debate, this leaves opportunity for individual debates amongst people about the original debate itself. Which side was right? Which speaker left out which important fact? Who answered the questions more directly? These are just beginning points of where the discussion would start, but as for where it goes, the possibilities are endless.

Before, debates were just that- debates. Each side came, said what they needed to say, the audience heard what they needed to hear, points were made, and a conclusion was drawn. Today, these shorter debates seem to double as both a mini version of what was happening before as well as a spark igniting the flame of discussion and debate among more and more people, and potentially reaching far beyond the audience in attendance. I can't help but wonder, what would Postman think of this? What do you think of this?  Do the shorter debate times make them more "amusing"?

4 comments:

  1. Personally, I do believe that the more common short debates are happening now so that the people can find things amusing and be able to listen for 5 minutes and be done. However, I think that the debate now isn’t as efficient as they could be. These debaters already have an idea of what they are wanting to say before they go into the debate. They have an overall idea of what points they need to get across to the audience to ensure that the people listening to them will go on their side of the debate. It doesn’t particularly matter what the questions are that are being asked to them, it just matters the content they are getting out. Which is interesting because I also believe that the content isn’t the best. They only have a short amount of time to detail these certain ideas so they don’t have all the facts that they should be saying to back up their claims. I think a lot of the debates that are going on now in the world is a lot of smoke and mirrors. Gaining people’s attention that are listening in and saying things that they want to hear.

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  2. I agree that debates in this time are much less productive than they were during the Lincoln Douglas debates. I think we can see by the video that we watched in class on Tuesday, where a panel "discussed" the movie "The Day After," as well as the threat of nuclear war. Clearly, all of the panelists had scripted things they wanted to say and they were hardly allowed to debate with one another. However, I don't think that we have the attention span to sit through a long debate anymore, especially not one that lasts 7 hours. Does all of our important information have to be entertaining for us to find it important? What's the alternative for a 7 hour debate in our time? I think we need a solution for the internet era.

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  3. I agree with Bonnie in that the attention span to sit through a long debate is nonexistent now. More than likely, if someone were to tell me that a presidential debate would be 4-5 hours long, I probably would not watch the entirety of the debate. Instead, I'd watch the summary videos the next morning or even watch the highlights later that night. However, I think today's debates do need some work. I don't think today's debates do not allow the candidates to fully explain their ideas. With a 2-3 minute response in a debate, a candidate cannot possibly address all of their points. Nowadays, candidates have to ensure that they fully address their platform and ideas throughout their campaign. In this sense, they can fully address their ideas, but it may only reach a certain audience.

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  4. This discussion is fascinating to me because I have never heard of this older form of debate prior to now, and I can tell it was much more effective as an actual discussion. While formal debates today are still much clearer and portray a much better discussion than most "debates" we see on the news today, a time limit absolutely decreases the effectiveness of the discussion. While it forces the speaker to be concise, they must only mention the most important factors and choose not to include other facets that might otherwise steer the public opinion in a different direction. Topics up for debate are almost never black and white, so a debate with limited time and limited facts never encompasses every aspect of the topic. While potent points can still be made and the general ideas can still be expressed, I personally think they are excluding a lot of important information, making contemporary structured debates a bit ineffective, even though they are still better than the bickering we see on TV these days.

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